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Hollie Warnick Interview Transcript

Updated: May 12

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Welcome to the curiously wise podcast. I'm your host, Laurin Wittig. This podcast is all about women supporting women, mind, body, and spirit. It's a place where we will honor celebrate and share women's natural and experiential through Curiosity, provoking conversations, shared stories and tips.


We've all gathered along this journey. I invite you to join in the fun as we uncover the unique wisdom. We each carry within us. Ready? Let's get curious.


[00:00:00] Laurin: Hello, friends, and welcome to the curiously wise podcast. I'm so happy to have Hollie Warnick here with me today. We have recently become acquaintances and, and I think we're to becoming friends pretty quickly. And I'm really excited to just have a wonderful fun chat with Hollie.

And I'm going to just ask if you would Hollie, to introduce yourself to our listeners.


[00:01:06] Hollie: I am Hollie Warnick and I am a mother of four. I am a behavioral kinesiologist Reiki master. I work with energy. I love doing healing processes with people, breaking through, transforming with them. And I am also an author, a very recent thing, and also recently a podcast host. So just brand. I do artwork.



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I am in the process of creating Oracle cards as well. I got journals out there and some online coursework. I just love spirituality. And I love working with spirituality in that realm in a playful way. So there's a little short intro of me.


[00:01:42] Laurin: That's great. yeah.

You've got so many beautiful projects that are bursting right now. And it's amazing to me cause I, just love the, the energy of your work. I think the first time we talked was just before your journey. Released in January . And you're coming out with another journal and got the Oracle cards working. And so creativity is something I love to talk about. And I know that you work closely with spirit, with your guides, , with the energy in receiving your creative work. So could you just talk about that process a little bit?


[00:02:19] Hollie: So creativity for me that I get little hits an inspiration throughout the day, little ideas come in and, and it's not to say that's everything. When I get into that flow state, there's a lot of ideas that come through that want to be birthed through me. And this year has been really big of like finally letting those through there's been enough personal work or things that I let go of that it can just come through.


So I like to get into a flow state. For that to show up. So how I do that is follow those little hits and inspiration. So whether for me, that's a lot of like dancing, letting that through with some good beads and, and movement and rhythm. And that's also me. Frankly, like listening to my crystals, listening to my plants, my plants have told me their names and, you know, part of me is like, wow, what a crazy person I am.


But when I allow myself to kind of go with that, that can be part of the creative process. Like, well, that plant wants to go by Bonnie, not body and Clyde, but Bonnie, which is totally a name of one of my plants. But when I allow those like seemingly silly things to show up in my life, that for some reason, That's to my creative process.

So I live in the desert and I do a walk every morning and , it ends up being a walking meditation because I ended up meeting my spirit guys. I ended up hearing things in my mind from rocks, which again, maybe I sound crazy, but this is part of spiritual play.


[00:03:43] Laurin: We are kindred spirits.


[00:03:44] Hollie: Okay. I'm just like the rocks be telling me stuff.

And I'm like warn the snakes I'm coming. Because again, I live in the desert there's diamond back, so that kind of stuff. And sometimes I worry on the trails. So I was like, well, if I can hear the rocks, I'll just tell them to warn the snakes I'm coming. So I don't have to run into those snakes. I don't want to get that.


So. Playing in those kinds of fields has really pumped up my spirituality, my creativity and other areas. So those are some fun, silly things I do to get into flow, state dancing allowing things to come in. And sometimes when I'm on my walk, it'll be different kind of spirit guides. And sometimes it's people I know who are alive that show up and I try to have a conversation if that's possible.

And I'm really thoughtful and careful about. What kind of thoughts and spirits I'm entertaining? So it may not sound like that because apparently I'm talking to my plants. Right. But I do choose what I feel it is I vibe and I do have a process where if I feel that that's not a spirit, I want hanging around, I have a process of, okay.


That you need to go. I try to keep it light and playful. And that brings in some of my creativity. And another thing with the creativity is really just getting in front of your medium. So whether that's the computer for writing and typing or that's paints or You know, color markers. I have four little kids and I can in front of paper a lot and I get the scraps of their papers and I can rearrange those, so here's for something playful for people.


I had a set up of all these papers my kids had used and I'm doing air quotes because they'll scribble a little in a little corner and then that paper is done. They don't want to use it. Mom gave me a clean piece of paper. So I ended up with all these scratch papers, seemingly, but it's fun. One time I just was ripping one up and it just stacked.

To some fun little rainbow thing, and I re glued it onto some paper and I thought, well, that's pretty a nice and just kind of thanked that piece of art and let it go. And their cycle bed. But I had some fun with it. So not being attached to what we create either or not having to have it come in certain parameters. So that's part of how I stay in flow and be creative and just let things come out.


[00:05:56] Laurin: So I just got goosebumps, which is spirit talking to me when you talked about not having it come in particular parameters, not hemming it in. And I think that's something that. I know, I forget. It's like you get focused on getting something done the way it's supposed to get done instead of letting it be messy and see what happens.


So I really love that aspect. I also really love that you get your body involved because that's something that. Again, I forget to do, I can sit at the desk most of the day on the computer or doing this kind of work or whatever. And I just, I forget to get up and move and dancing is one of The ways I do that, but I tend to do that when the house is empty and my husband works from home part-time too. So it's not empty very often.


[00:06:41] Hollie: You gotta get your dance on. Huh?


[00:06:43] Laurin: Yeah. Yeah. I I have a group of friends that

we usually have dinner with on Fridays, and we used to have dance parties pretty regularly, and we're all in our fifties and sixties. And, and it was always, of course, just the women dancing guys, standing around drinking their beers.




[00:06:56] Hollie: Right. Right. Come on


[00:06:58] Laurin: I don't, I don't get that, but that's, one of the things I really missed about the pandemic was that that group dancing it's a very I guess ceremonial, it's a bonding that, that doesn't happen.

In other words and women are particularly, drawn to those sort of community bonding things. I think I know. I certainly am. I love that community of women. It's different than the community. Women and men, and it's a way that we don't often gift ourselves with. So that body movement is a way that think I use that pretty often.


I'll walk with somebody or, you know, we'll, we'll go on a hike together or something, but I love that you just bring it in every day. You take a walk every morning and you know that that's Yeah.

lovely. I live in Virginia. The weather is Mostly dreadful.


[00:07:42] Hollie: Hm.


[00:07:43] Laurin: It's either a hot and humid or cold and rainy or so I try to take advantage of those days where it is nice.

But so I really love, I love that. you talk about what's the phrase you use with kinesiology? Yeah.

Tell me what that is. Cause I don't, I'm very curious. I don't know what that means.


[00:07:59] Hollie: Right. Yeah, this is actually my favorite topic. I've been working with this modality for over 20 years. So there was one point in my life where I said, I need to do some personal work. I'm struggling. And I jumped into this modality. I love it. So behavioral kinesiology is part behavioral health part applied.

These. Date, which is muscle testing and then another part spirituality or your belief system. And so those three components comprise this healing facilitation. So I bring in behavioral health concepts. So that's kind of, you know, maybe childhood development just depends on what the client needs, but you know, just those aspects of learning, cognitive.


Therapy. I'm not at all a therapist in that way, but these are concepts that are universal. So I like to bring those on. And then the apply kinesiology that muscle testing helps people bypass their ego. So I often do it partnered in person. And if I'm on a zoom call, which is very often since the pandemic I muscle testing over here and that's a tap into the energy instead of, you know, me speaking a lot of words about what's going on.


Oh, well he did this. She said that I went this way and it was their fault blame, and all these judgements coming out of my mouth. This apply can easier. Muscle testing taps into bypasses, all of that and gets to the core of it, taps into your heart instead of the chatter and gets down to the bottom of the situation has access because your heart has access to all your other systems that are of your body.


I've worked with people In this capacity with behavioral kinesiology that are experiencing arthritis, I had a guy who was afraid to fly on planes and we worked through his fear plane, cause he had got a new job. He needed to be on planes and he says, I don't know how I'm gonna work out this new job and work through that with this applied kinesiology.

And, you know, there's other stories, but I also like to bring people's belief into it because as soon as we get down to maybe an a core issue, so maybe I have a fear of wearing pink pants. I just can't do it every time I wear them. I feel inferior. Everyone's better than. And it all turns out. It was one comment that my sister suppose that this isn't real, supposedly my sister made you look fat in those pink pants or something now we'll just never wear them.


And when we get down to that, we can release that off. And, and I'm being kind of flippant with that example, but there are really deep trauma wounds that we can get to without having to relive or re-experience. We're totally divulge every detail we name it. And then we can uproot it. This work is like pulling weeds out of a garden.

We only pull out the things you don't want. And we like to get the root at like by the handle so you can get almost all the route, right? So the more we name it, the better handle we get on it. And we pull that out. We replace it or let it fill in with that person's belief system, all of their. The light and true things, the love and peace things that they believe in or whatever, inspires them, whatever touch moves, and inspires them, replace it with that.

So there's an uprooting and then there's it's like gardening, spiritual gardening.


[00:11:05] Laurin: Yeah.


[00:11:07] Hollie: So yeah, helping people release old programming is kind of that in a nutshell, the, does that make sense?


[00:11:13] Laurin: Oh Yeah. totally. Totally. I don't use muscle testing. I've been trained to do a little bit of it, , I feel energy with the palms of my hands. So when I'm working with somebody, whether they're here in my office or by zoom, which is like you said, pretty much all I do these days I caught revealing, like revealing what the root causes.

And then, and like you said, you name it. You, you can, you can see it. You can feel it. You can not feel it so much. Actually. I like to not have to have


[00:11:38] Hollie: Right. No reliving.


[00:11:39] Laurin: Right. Well, what I tell them is you get to, you get to release the pain, but keep the wisdom.


[00:11:45] Hollie: Yes.


[00:11:45] Laurin: That's sort of the way I do what you're talking about.

I Love how we all have our own way of doing the work of releasing pain, basically. And helping people plant something better.


[00:11:56] Hollie: Yeah. Get out of suffering and into, creativity mode or just,


[00:12:00] Laurin: Yeah. I mean, a lot of it is how do you want to create your life? it's interesting. I love how all this stuff comes together and everybody has sort of their own way of doing it, but it's, it's at its root. It's helping people feel better that they can live a better, more joyful life.

And so I love talking to people about, about the healing work. tell us about your journey. Because I know you've published one and you got a dream journal. You said that's coming out. It's in the editorial process right now,


[00:12:27] Hollie: Yeah, it's all written. It's been written for a while and I did drawings in there, so that, that was super fun for me. And I love bringing that to people. So what I did release in January at the end of June, Is the Hollywood journal. I've done this fun little playful thing where I've kind of branded Hollywood.


So my name is spelled with an E instead of a Y. And then would, is like I would do that, you know, w O U L D so Hollywood. And I've got some funny little YouTubes about that. I've got my podcast, Hollywood podcasts, but yes, I created this journal after I created the podcast. I at spirit came in and. Okay, well, you need to write a journal and I'm like, well, what, what do I call it?

And then it tied somehow perfectly in with Hollywood. And it's these, it gets you to do some silly things. Some, playful things that maybe you wouldn't expect out of a journal that maybe you wouldn't do. Normally this journal is to prompt you. If that's what it is. Journal prompts that gets you kind of thinking outside of the box gets you interacting with yourself.


And in some cases, the outside world in ways that maybe you don't usually it's to help people go deeper with their journaling or to get started, it's not like super daunting, like, okay, right away. We're going to jump into your childhood trauma and no, no, no. It's questions like. what was your favorite holiday season and what did, what traditions did you have?


So there's, you know, that's kind of a, a light playful, but there are some in there, like who, and what is God to you? is that your higher self? Is that others that an outside of you deity and what's your relationship to them and kind of in gentle ways that sneak around the. Conscious have to do it right.

Maybe left brain thinking and gets you to be using your right brain being playful. There's there's even a finish your own recipe in there. There's a create your own mantra. And I actually have drawings in there too, for people To participate with, finish the drawing, color, the drawing, tell us how you feel about the drawing.


So I just, I want people to get in tune with themselves cause there's a lot of healing inside. I can't, when I'm in a session, I'm not doing the healing, right. The person is doing their healing. I facilitate that work. I just kind of bring in the tools. And so that's what this journal is. Yeah. On some level, like a copy of me that people can work with me and healing and I'm not there and they work in a capacity that's comfortable for them.

There's a few places to draw. It is mostly a writing journal and a little bit of. Good for you stuff in the beginning and a little pat on the back at the end. And it was really fun to write. It's got my rainbow drawing on the front. I just, I want to bring light to the world and this was another way to do that.

So just, yeah, go grab it. If you're interested.


[00:15:09] Laurin: I try to get my clients to journal and most of them won't. So I may, I may like go here's a playful journal.


[00:15:15] Hollie: Yeah. Yeah. I've had people open it and say, oh, I thought this was going to be hard, but I don't have to go in any particular order. It's not like, you know, there's no set time limit. I tried to make as little rules around it as possible.


[00:15:27] Laurin: When I was a kid, we would get these diaries that had the little locks on them,

and they had the dates or you had to write it in, you know, you're supposed to write it every day. And it was like, it lasted about two days. And then it was like, until. Yeah.

I love journaling.

I'm sure. Because you're doing a journal that you already journal or


[00:15:46] Hollie: Avid avid.


[00:15:47] Laurin: Yeah.

I started doing it in high school and as part of a theater class, we had to keep a journal and I kept doing it all the way through my early twenties, which was sort of a very tumultuous time in my life. It is for most people, but I also had family stuff going on, but I had to deal with.

But I found it to be a wonderful way to understand what I was feeling, what I was thinking, because I would get so lost in the emotions and frankly, the hormones, when you're, when you're in that age, you don't know what's you, what's not you. And everything seems like it's coming at you.


[00:16:22] Hollie: Super real. Yeah. It's


[00:16:23] Laurin: Yeah.


[00:16:24] Hollie: And then all of a sudden it doesn't matter.


[00:16:27] Laurin: I used to write long letters to my parents that I never actually let them have, I just needed to get it out, And I found it very therapeutic, but I also found it illuminating for me because, and to this day, I often don't know what I'm thinking or feeling until I see it on the page. 'cause I, I just allow whatever to come out, comes out and that's, that's why I tried to get my clients to use it because I think we often don't really know what's going on inside.

And as healers, we start to tune into that and it's part of the healing process for sure. And I think all healers have had to go through the healing process.


[00:17:03] Hollie: Okay. If you haven't. Wow.


[00:17:05] Laurin: Yeah. I don't know how you do that. for me, it's, it's always been a really good healing tool. And I love that you bring the playfulness to it.

Cause like I said, I tend to be pretty serious and I try actually, I don't think I am as much, but I've been pretty serious my whole life trying to be the good girl and good mom do everything. Right. And now, now I'm like,


[00:17:24] Hollie: Yeah, what's good anymore. Look for that label out.


[00:17:28] Laurin: Well, I'm going to just have fun. so when did you come to journaling?


[00:17:31] Hollie: So at age eight, I was gifted a journal from my grandparents on that birthday, which is how I grew up. It was a pivotal birthday. I got baptized. I was a full member of my church, so it's a big deal. and I got this journal. I didn't have a lock and I really wanted one with the lock. When I was a kid, I wanted it to feel like it's secure.

Why didn't I get one with the locks? You know, there's like fake keys that


[00:17:52] Laurin: Yes, right.


[00:17:53] Hollie: Everything, spider keys. So my mom created like a Velcro that went around. So I


[00:17:58] Laurin: That's a good mom,


[00:17:59] Hollie: Open a check. I mean, you could take the whole thing off, obviously anybody could get in there, but luckily I was the youngest sister, so I mean, I don't think my older sister was interested in getting into my journal, but I have been journaling ever since.

And it's funny. I actually read out of my journal on my podcast, my first inspiration, I sat down for the first podcast episode and said like, okay, God, what am I supposed to do here? And it was like, read out of your journal. Okay, I'll do that. All right. And thus I did. And what it ends up being is an inspiration for people see what they can write in their journal and see like, oh, that's the awkward things that you can get out or, you know, and I don't know how else it's inspiring people, but if you're wondering what goes on a journal, that's on my podcast.


But journaling has been that process of figuring out how I feel. Getting it out of me, to me, journaling is a lot of it's up in your head. It's spinning around. You can think about it all night on your way to sleep and it'll pop right back up in the morning. Sometimes if you get it out of the mind and put it onto a piece of paper, you've brought it from one realm to another realm and you could do a little more, a little more power once it's physical.

I'm a bit advocate of burning out. Some journaling, you know, if you have something really ugly, that you're really, oh, I don't want anyone to see that. Go ahead and burn it. If some really intense feelings, I processed a lot of anger through writing and yeah. In fact, can we share like a really fun exercise for people


[00:19:22] Laurin: Yeah, please, please.


[00:19:24] Hollie: So whatever emotions really hard for you. So maybe it's, I don't want to deal with my sadness or my, for me, it was anger often. Like it's not okay to be angry. And so I would write that. Here's how I feel. Here's who I'm angry at. Here's the words I want to say to them. And gosh, then you can start judging sometimes when you see that on paper, like, oh, look how I scribbled.

Look how intensely I drew and the words I was using. Oh. So what you want to do after you get it all out of your body onto the paper is you take it to a place where no one can hear you because you're going to read it out loud. And when you read it out loud, that's another transference of energy.

And another way to bring it into this round.

You speak it with all the emotion. Oh yeah. Read it out loud. Make sure no one's around. You don't want to like pass that energy onto them. And with all the emotion you can and then after that you burn it and you put it in the fire wherever you get to burn it safely.


[00:20:15] Laurin: Yes.


[00:20:15] Hollie: And you've watched the entire thing burn.

Totally transmute from one physicality to another you've changed status, right? It's burning into little pieces. There's smoke coming off. You have taken it from your brain, put on a paper, spoken to the loud, and now it's burned into some other form, you know, thank you earth. Please do something better with that.

Right.


[00:20:36] Laurin: Yeah,


[00:20:37] Hollie: Very therapeutic experience. So I recommend that.


[00:20:41] Laurin: Yeah. That's great. I, I have, I think I've done all, but the reading it out loud. Cause I never want to like hear that stuff, I love journaling because it actually creates perspective. Just the physical act of getting it on a piece of paper. You can hold it up like this and go, you know, okay, now I can see it and I can put it at arms


[00:20:58] Hollie: So well said


[00:20:59] Laurin: And that's something.


[00:21:00] Hollie: It forever or I can burn it up.


[00:21:02] Laurin: I can burn it up.

Yeah. Yeah. I have done the burning part of it, for sure. And, and that's just a little piece that I had to that just to add to your wonderful ceremony there is, I asked the earth to transmute it into love and send it back. To whoever I was angry at her sad about, or if I don't want to send it back to, if it's not a particular person, it's something just bigger than just send it to whoever needs it.

And so that's, for me, that's always sort of like forgiving myself for feeling that way and offering it as a gift. So, yeah. So I just tack


[00:21:36] Hollie: That offering is a gift. Yes, please like repurpose that energy when we give things part that's. Another part of the creativity idea is like we repurpose things, so, okay. You had this way that you were, that helped you survive all these years and. It doesn't know how to function anymore. Let's give that part a new job.

Instead of looking for ways, people are out to get me. Let's look for ways that people are out to help me, you know, and just repurposing energy. I love that. Thank you for bringing that piece back in. He must be a


[00:22:04] Laurin: A collaboration.


[00:22:05] Hollie: That's right?