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Transcript Interview Episode with Corbie Mitleid

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[00:00:00] Corbie: Readers can use anything. In fact, if you ever want to do this and the universe hands you your draft notice and says you're working for us, first thing it will do is it will go rifling through your file cabinet to find out what you're good at in the normal world. Me, theater major at Brown University and I acted in New York for years, so I understand character arts.


Words are my drug of choice. I'm a writer. I can tell stories and I have been interested in history since I was a wee child in single digits. You put all that together and my two favorite tools are cards and doing past lives.


[00:00:47] Laurin: Hello friends, and welcome to Curiously Wise. I'm Laurin Wittig, your host, and I have the awesome Corbie Mitleid right with me today. And we're gonna have, I can already tell you just from our pre-conversation here that we're gonna have a lot of fun today. So I'm really happy to welcome her here.


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Welcome Corbie. Let me just introduce her a little bit. Corbie Mitleid has been reading since 1973. She's traveled coast to coast and into Canada as a full-time intuitive counselor, and is an inspirational speaker and facilitator.


Corbie prides herself on being a practical intuitive. Despite her elegant clothes and table trappings, most people say sitting with her is a comfortable, safe experience that feels like they’re with a longtime friend, not a stranger spouting a bunch of mystical who do and pretense.


I love that. And she doesn't believe in bad news. We have opportunities we can go after and challenges to get past, she says firmly. After dealing three times with breast cancer, I learned that firsthand. My job is to give you the tools and courage to deal with both situations. Everything else is free will, and up to you.


I love that. That's such a fun way of describing yourself.


[00:02:04] Corbie: Thank you.


[00:02:04] Laurin: So welcome.


[00:02:05] Corbie: Thank you.


[00:02:06] Laurin: Corbie, you are a psychic and a tarot card reader. It sounds to me like that's your primary tool that you use is the tarot deck. Is that correct?


[00:02:17] Corbie: Well expand it a little bit. There's tarot. I use a bunch of Oracle decks.


[00:02:21] Laurin: Oh, good.


[00:02:22] Corbie: In fact, they always live on my desk. There's the crew.


[00:02:26] Laurin: Oh, yes.


[00:02:28] Corbie: And I'm also a past life specialist. That's what I did for Robert Schwartz in his book series on pre-birth planning and karma.


[00:02:36] Laurin: Hmm. So lots of tools there. I love, I have never learned Tarot but I love Oracle decks. I have a whole drawer full of them that I pull out. It's like, what do I wanna do today? That's good. I know a lot of people have heard of Tarot Decks. I think Oracle decks are something a little bit newer, so I know I've run into people who are like, they're familiar with Tarot, but not the Oracles. So what's the difference between the, let's start right there. What's the difference between those?


[00:03:03] Corbie: Okay. Well, I actually teach a course called Deck a Dance, which teaches people who come in and know from nothing how to pick up any Oracle deck and read it within 30 seconds. You learn to trust yourself.


The thing about Tarot is it's been around since Moses was in diapers, I mean forever. And when you've got something that's been there and it's the same shape and the same number of cards and the same suits, it has rules and regs that people get a little scared of.


Now, when you've been reading as long as I have, the rules and regs are a great place to start, but you start trusting your intuition. And if they wanna give you a left of set or message, you deliver it because you know there's a purpose.


The cards, the same thing about Tarot and Oracle cards, if you do it right, is they are merely doorways to get you through and get your intuition popping, saying you need to tell this person this.


It's one of the reasons I explain the allegory in tarot very, very often. Because look one of the things that I say to rookies is I have three rules and the third one is there are three cards that scare rookies, death, the devil, and the tower. If they come up, I'll tell you what they mean cuz it ain't that.


I'm going through my deck now to find it. Because when you understand the allegory, you then can not be scared of a card. You can take the energy that it is presenting you and use it usefully. That's the big key.


[00:04:36] Laurin: Hmm.


[00:04:36] Corbie: So let's take a look at the tower card. Everybody sees this and says doom, gloom, destruction. I say, no, no, no.


Think of it more like the imploding Sports Stadium card. Yankees wanna build a new stadium, they gotta blow up the old one first. Clear the ground to rebuild. So when the tower card comes up, that generally means there is something in your life that has to be deconstructed, swept away, gotten rid of. Whether it is laid off from a job, a relationship goes south.


Finances go bully. But it doesn't mean God is going, mmm, it means the universe is saying shift. So that's one. This one. Oh my God. People look at this and think, does that mean I'm gonna be hit by a bus on Tuesday? No.


[00:05:21] Laurin: Okay. Which one is that?


[00:05:23] Corbie: Death.


[00:05:23] Laurin: A death. Okay.


[00:05:24] Corbie: Death card. No. It's death of an old way of life. Death of what you've outgrown.

Death of what was never you in the first place. And this is not Mr. Horn's in a Tale. It's not even Jack Nicholson in the Witches based way. It is being bedeviled by something someone, or some situation, or holding yourself back from your highest and best. Now, is that the absolute meaning you're going to find in every how to read Tarot book?


No, but it is how this deck in particular talks to me. It is the meaning that I have found most useful and most universal when those cards come up. That's why I have a rank as a certified Tarot master.


[00:06:05] Laurin: Okay.


[00:06:05] Corbie: Been there, done that.


[00:06:07] Laurin: Right, right. Okay, good. Yeah. There are for me, because of all the rules and regs, I knew a lot of people who were learning it and they were all very careful about doing exactly right. And I have found, I came to Oracle cards after I discovered my intuitive abilities and my gifts, and I find them wonderful because I can look at it and get a message.


And I'll usually go kind of check if it's a new deck, particularly, you know, with the little booklet that comes with them. But it's so clear to me that it is just, oh, it's a way of focusing your attention, I wanna say, on something that needs, you know, your attention.


[00:06:47] Corbie: Yeah. Now, do you have lots of Oracle decks?


[00:06:50] Laurin: I probably have a dozen, but I only work regularly with a couple of 'em. And I have found there was the one I started with, I got to know it really well and I didn't really even need the book anymore cuz I had worked with it so often. So there's that


[00:07:06] Corbie: The reason I'm asking is I started working with Oracle Decks because they all had a specific thing they wanted to talk about. For instance, this is the Fairies' Oracle deck by Brian Froud and Jess McBeth. These are not your oochie cutey fairies. These guys march inside your head and rip up the floor tiles and give you a homework.


So this is my dead dog serious deck. If someone says, oh, they're scary, I want the angel deck. Well, yes, I've got an angel deck right here.


[00:07:35] Laurin: Uhuh.


[00:07:36] Corbie: I've got a deck that is specifically for karma and relationships. I've got a deck that is very, very compassionate. It's a Ganesh deck, which artwork is gorgeous. And so, that's why I have that many decks. When I'm shopping, if one of 'em goes, Mimi over here, I do this and we have a conversation and it fits and it goes into the mix.


[00:08:05] Laurin: Yeah. Yeah, that's artwork and just the theme is what sense.


[00:08:09] Corbie: Mm-hmm.


[00:08:09] Laurin: to, to call to me the most. I have a number of nature related or shaman related decks that I love, but I know that you describe yourself at least on your website, as a psychic, and that's a trigger word for a lot of people.


And so one of the things that I've been reading is one of your books, which is the Psychic Yellow Brick Road, which the humor in this is lovely. I love the humor of your writing. I have to say I love humor in all things. We can't take ourselves too seriously cuz the world is serious enough.


But you talk about how to find a psychic, a legit person who actually can do it. So can you just, first of all, maybe, because not all of our listeners really know what you mean by psychic, so if you could just kind of explain that to us first.


[00:08:56] Corbie: Psychic is we get answers on things with something other than our normal five senses, but people get psychics and mediums mixed up. Mediums Talk to your dead aunt Mabel. Specifically, that's what they do. Channels talk to angels and spirit guides, and Seth and Abraham and Emmanuel, and all of those dudes.


Readers can use anything. In fact, if you ever want to do this and the universe hands you your draft notice and says you're working for us, first thing it will do is it will go rifling through your file cabinet to find out what you're good at in the normal world. Me, theater major at Brown University and I acted in New York for years, so I understand character arts.


Words are my drug of choice. I'm a writer. I can tell stories and I have been interested in history since I was a wee child in single digits. You put all that together and my two favorite tools are cards and doing past lives because there could be another good past life reader, but they don't have my historical background.


You give us both the same vision. They would probably say it's a long skirt. It's a big picture hat. It's in front of something very ornates, probably Europe, old fashioned, maybe 19th century. I'm gonna look at that same thing and go hobble skirt, picture hat, that kind of ostrich feather. You're in front of the Brandenburg gates.


So this is Berlin in 1911.


[00:10:29] Laurin: Wow.


[00:10:30] Corbie: On the other hand, do not ask me to do spirit art because I cannot draw a stick figure with a sharp pencil and a lot of prayer.


[00:10:37] Laurin: Mm-hmm. Mm-hmm.


[00:10:39] Corbie: Okay? So don't think you have to learn everything. Find what you love if you wanna do this and go party there.


[00:10:45] Laurin: Yeah. Yeah, that's an interesting way of looking at it because, well, first of all, I have to say I am also a Brown University graduate, so…


[00:10:55] Corbie: What year? What year?


[00:10:57] Laurin: I graduated in 81.


[00:10:59] Corbie: Okay. 77. I'm behind you.


[00:11:01] Laurin: So, Right. Yeah. You left just as I got there. So I, you don't run into a whole lot of Brown graduates, so that,


[00:11:08] Corbie: No. And we will not tell stories about Cafe Rate, and you know none. No, no, no. Nope, nope. Let us, let us quietly move away on that.


[00:11:24] Laurin: Yeah. We'll just go.


[00:11:25] Corbie: Help.


[00:11:25] Laurin: Now I lost my train of thought. Oh, I, I also am a word person. That's the other thing is that I feel I am very kindred with you here because I'm a writer of stories. I write novels that have Heroines who usually have metaphysical gifts, which I wrote all of those before I knew I had mine, which I always, I love to look back at.


But, it's interesting cuz I love to help people feel better and I, in stories and words, I call myself a word girl. So that's definitely your same wheelhouse. A psychic can be any of those things, right? It can be…


[00:12:01] Corbie: Mm-hmm.


[00:12:01] Laurin: A card reader, it can be a channeler or it can be a medium. I do a little of all of that, you know, but but the words are the way where I love.


[00:12:10] Corbie: Psych psychic is your ability. Cards, past lives, et cetera, cetera, are your talent.


[00:12:20] Laurin: Yes. Okay, good. Thank you. All right. So just briefly, maybe let people know sort of the maybe two or three things to watch out for or to look, let's, let's do it positive to look for when you're looking for a psychic to work with. How would you choose a good one? A legit one.


[00:12:39] Corbie: In the book, I actually have pneumonic psychic professionalism, shared references. You're in charge of your own life charges. Here I can fix anything for a price, inappropriate actions, connections, and it really goes through a deep dish. But let's say you are going to a psychic fair and you don't know any of us from Adam's house cat.


Let's do that. You gotta learn to be a good puppy kids. First thing you do is you going in your do you're walkies. That means you walk around and you look at everybody. You don't need to talk to them. You just get in. Then you have to get paper trained. What does that mean? That means we all have rack cards or brochures.


You pick up everything from anybody you think you'd possibly be interested in. Then you sit down and you read it. They're usually, you know, tables, booths, chairs. Wherever you can go through, you're going to find three or four people that go ding, and you're gonna go back to their booth. If they're not busy, talk to them.


If they are, talk to our front people. Now one warning about our front people. We hire them to say they love us. My very first front person was the magnificent Laura Bickerman. Laura was my husband's office manager at the museum he ran Monday through Friday. She worked for me weekends. Do you think she's gonna dismiss his museum director?


Probably not. And I can say I'm wonderful and that doesn't count. You want to go for our testimonial books? We all have them. And if you're looking online, there should be some on their website. You need to look at, are we good? Are we funny? Are we accurate? Do we have specialties? Children, dogs, dead people? Were they comfortable and would they come back?


But the last thing you gotta do is check in at heart level. You are putting your hard-earned money on the table. If the psychic doesn't feel like they have a brain in their head, they really care about what they're doing or they're gonna give you good information, don't go there, no matter how cool the Wiki Woo looks on the table.


And if you're just looking for someone you know, Yellow Pages or someone recommended them, make sure you get some client references from them. If we're pros, guaranteed. We have at least a half a dozen people will say, oh yeah, give them my email and I'll be happy to give you a reference. Okay?


Because you need to make sure that you're not gonna get upsold on lots of extras, like blessed candles, cuz you have a curse. You have to make sure that they don't say the same thing all the time, things like that.


[00:15:22] Laurin: Mm-hmm.


[00:15:22] Corbie: So it it, there is no better business bureau for psychics, guys. There isn't. You have to do your own research.


But the most important thing is if you feel uncomfortable, you get up and you leave, whether it's at a show or whether it's in their offices. If you are 70 and they say, of your four children, it's your youngest who will take care of you in the nursing home and your postmenopausal and childless, then connecting petunia.


I'm sorry. And Madam Hoja, you're not connecting. Can I have my money back please? And leave.


[00:15:53] Laurin: Mm-hmm. And that's…


[00:15:55] Corbie: It's a little bit of a hot button you just push.


[00:15:58] Laurin: Yeah. Yeah. But it's, it's important because I think there is a lot of distrust of, of someone who calls themselves a psychic. And I mean, I even have trouble explaining to family and friends what it is I do. And I'm an intuitive healer, you know, so…


[00:16:13] Corbie: I know.


[00:16:14] Laurin: They're like, You're what? People pay you for that?


[00:16:17] Corbie: And people need to protect themselves from what I call drive by psychic shootings. Did you get to that part in the book?


[00:16:23] Laurin: No, I haven't.


[00:16:24] Corbie: Okay. Long Island Medium does it on her show. You're at Wegmans and you're feeling up the Cantalopes and she walks up and goes, Your ran door says you have a bull tire in the back and you go die in a car accident if you don't get it fixed, just telling you and walks away, guys, that is so fake.


Number one. Her PR staff went out and looked at all the Wegmans on Long Island and chose one. Then they interviewed people and had them sign model releases. Then they rehearsed six times. But psychics who aren't professional, and by that I mean they understand ethics, et cetera, think that they have a right to walk up to you and give you a message.


You have a right to say, I'm sorry, I don't know you, and I don't want the message. And if they follow you and keep trying to give it, you get the manager and you say, I'm being harass.


[00:17:10] Laurin: Yeah.


[00:17:11] Corbie: Okay. Cause the same thing happens to me at a psychic fair. You know, I'm reading for hours at my desk and I get a neck ache and a headache.


Well, you know, the, the glurpy Purple Little Dancing Raccoons go, I know Reiki. I can pick that for you. And they come at you with your hands like this and you say, Excuse me. No, please don't, Don't really, I can, I don't like anybody touching me that I don't know. Just trust me. Back off. You're not very love and light, are you?


Well, you didn't listen to no.


[00:17:38] Laurin: Yes.


[00:17:41] Corbie: Look, you know, I kid about the glurpy purple with angels and sometimes that is the kind of person you wanna go to. I'm from New York, darling. I will make you laugh, but I don't pull my punches and I will hit you upside the head with the brick.


[00:17:53] Laurin: Yeah. Yeah.


[00:17:54] Corbie: That’s one of the reasons why you have to go around in a psychic fair and get a feel for all of us.


[00:17:58] Laurin: Right, right. And I love that the last step is really just to check in with yourself and see how it feels, because that's, to me, that's really the most important part. Everything can look good on paper, but if I don't feel like you're a good match for me energetically, then I'm gonna go somewhere else and…


[00:18:16] Corbie: That's right. And a, a good intuitive will not take offense.


[00:18:20] Laurin: Right.


[00:18:20] Corbie: A, a dear friend of mine, Stacey Wells best medical Intuitive in the US and she and I were both in Robert Schwartz's books. We will recommend if someone comes to us and it's not us, we'll say, I really think you need to go to Stacy, or I really think you need to go to Corbie because that's what professionals do.


They want you the client to go to the right person, even if it isn't us.


[00:18:44] Laurin: Yes. Absolutely. Absolutely. Okay, let's talk a little bit about the client's responsibility when they, when they come to see you. because that's something that I think for anybody who, anybody, anywhere, it's, it's an important thing to think about.


[00:19:03] Corbie: Yes. It's a two-way street, guys. It just is. I know there are some people who think, oh, well you should sit in front of the psychic and not say anything and not look at 'em or anything, and then they should pick up all that stuff. Guys, for me, that's like trying to climb Everest in sneakers. There's no grip.


I'm fast. One of the fastest card readers you will ever meet. But if we only have 20 minutes, 30 minutes together, it is important when you sit down to say, this is what I wanna learn today. Because as fast as I am, I could go from A to F of your life encyclopedia, but if what you wanna know is down at M and I don't get there, you go, Oh, she didn't tell me anything.


[00:19:42] Laurin: Mm-hmm.


[00:19:43] Corbie: So know what you want to know. Whether it's the everyday tour, bus, house, car, job, kids, finances. Okay, Got you. Put me here. What the hell? Or who was I in 1642 Belgium, Or I wanna speak to my spirit guide, bank your house, dead Aunt Mabel. Those are the four things that you've come up with at a psychic fair. Know what you wanna know.


Okay? I do encourage questions, but listen carefully. Don't keep saying, I don't think so. I don't think so. I don't think so, because what that does is that says la la la. I'm not listening in your six-year-old with your fingers and yours, okay? No, we're not going to be a hundred percent accurate. The only one a hundred percent accurate is God, and God is not doing psychic fairs this week.


You take what we've told you, you listen. Some of it is bang on some of it no, and some of it maybe, but you put the recording, you'll get from me away and come back to it in a couple of months. You work with the information, you expand it. If I say your daughter is really gonna need you at the end of the year, don't say she and I are estranged.


You don't know what if she is pregnant and then sudden infant death syndrome and her daughter dies at seven weeks old, she'll need her mother. So it doesn't mean that it'll be bad things. What if your daughter is a teenager and all of a sudden she's given a semester in Barcelona and she's never been away from home?


She's a little nervous. She comes to you for reassurance. So listen to what we say. Let the universe expand for you and act on the information in the most positive way possible.


[00:21:28] Laurin: Yeah. Yeah. That and, and the two pieces of that for me that I had to learn cuz I can be a little hardheaded is to listen. And just, just listen. Don't judge, don't put try to put it into context yet. Just listen, take it in, let it come in. I have what I call my hopper in the back of my head where I dump things and later when I need them, they come up to the surface.


So that, for me, that's just letting it come into the subconscious really. And then the other part is eventually it's gonna make sense and you gotta take action.


[00:22:02] Corbie: That's right.


[00:22:03] Laurin: Because if you don't take action, what's the point?


[00:22:06] Corbie: Why'd you spend your money? One of the other things that will help people. I don't encourage the yes or no questions because two things. One, if the answer is no, where do you go? And that gives the fake gypsies. Oh, I know that you love Bruce, but there are karma knots to untie. But this $600 candle, no.


If someone comes to me with the age-old question, does Bruce love me? I will do five Tarot cards. Maisy Bruce, the relationship, what she needs to know and best possible outcome at this point. If she still goes, I don't know what to do, then I'll pull my three threes, three cards for status quo. She just kind of bumbles along three cards for the Come to Jesus meeting where it's serious gambling and three cards for hostile abide by.


It's been nice. I'll send you postcard, but she's gone.


[00:22:52] Laurin: Mm-hmm.