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Transcript Interview Episode with Niki Jones

Updated: Jan 4, 2023


Niki: [00:00:00] What I would like you to do, imagine, visualize every single hope, every single dream for the future for now. Everything that you need. Everything that you want. Dream big. Get rid of barriers. Get rid of the what ifs. Get rid of the, oh, I wish. And visualize you having all of that right now. The peace, the confidence, the security, whether it be financial or anything else.

The carefree, the joy, the purpose, the happiness, all of the wonderful energies and emotions that you associate with abundance.


Laurin: Hi friends and welcome to Curiously Wise. Happy New Year. We are releasing this on January 1st, [00:01:00] 2023, and I'm so excited. Today we have a friend of mine, Niki Jones, is here. She was my very first interviewee on this way back in April of 2022. And she's come back because she and I were talking about rituals and ceremony.


And, it's something I don't really do very consciously, but she really uses it as a tool in her spiritual practice. And so, what we dreamed up for today is an experience for you to start the new year off with abundance. And she's gonna do an abundance ritual for us, and we're gonna talk about it what that is first, but you're actually gonna have an opportunity to experience the ritual as she performs it for us.


So I think this is gonna be really fun and what a lovely way to start the year off. By the way, we are recording this earlier, we're recording it on 11-11-22, and I'm gonna have Nicki introduce herself and then just tell us why that's an important date. Okay? So, Niki, welcome.



Niki: Thank you for having me. I'm so excited.


Laurin: I know I am too. I always love getting together [00:02:00] with you. So, introduce yourself a little bit and then we'll talk about 11-11 briefly.


Niki: Oh, my name is Niki Jones. I am a spiritual life coach, a spiritual mentor, and I'm a witch. I'm the owner of Tech Witch Lair, and I love everything about what we're doing.


The 11-11 portal is, well, the number 11 is the master number, the master manifestor, and the portal that is open up right now through the universe is sending energetic light codes, activations for not only abundance, but awakening and manifesting absolutely everything that we want, and, it's just a perfect time to actually do this and take advantage of it.


Laurin: Yeah. Yeah. So, thank you for, for thinking of that because we were looking for a date to do this and, and you were like, can we, can we do it on the 11-11? And I'm like, sure. Let's do that. That feels good. So, you're gonna talk about ritual and ritual [00:03:00] for me, when I do it, it's sort of spontaneous. It's like, I don't think I'm gonna do a ritual today.


I just find myself gathering things around my office and arranging them. I have a little coffee table kind of area in my office and I have a big tray on it that looks like a mandala. I mean, it is a mandala. It's all, you know, etched into it. It's beautiful and it's big and that's become kind of an altar for me.


And I'm always sort of just playing with things there and setting an intention that it bring whatever energy I want into the room at that time. But you do it in a more intentional way. So, let's start with, first of all, what do you mean by ritual?


Niki: Well, a ritual is anytime we consciously choose to connect with, whether it be our intent, our will, our guides, the universe, and to make a change in something.


Or it can be something as simple as lighting a candle or incense and offering gratitude. It's like, thank you for these opportunities, or thank you for these lessons.


Laurin: Yeah. Okay. [00:04:00] So, now take us through what, when you do a ritual, I know you have certain things that you bring in. So, tell us about the components of, of the ritual that we're gonna do today.


And in fact, tell us exactly what the ritual is that we're doing today.


Niki: We are doing an abundance ritual to help everyone that watches or listens ring in the new year in the best possible way by bringing in abundance for all of our highest good.


Laurin: I love it.


Niki: It's completely tailored to, well, each individual. And that's the beauty about ritual. There's no one set way of doing it. It's completely personal and you do it more intuitively and that's amazing. That's awesome. That's how I do everything. And you, you listen to, you know, your guides, your higher self, your soul, and your heart, and be like, okay, you know what? I need to do this really quick.


Laurin: Mm-hmm.


Niki: And that's where a lot of it starts. And for the ones that are more conscious, like a ritual like this, [00:05:00] we have to have purpose. So, we need to actually define exactly what it is that we want. And in this case, well, manifesting abundance. Abundance encompasses so much.


Yes, we could all use more money, but that's not the only thing. There's abundance of opportunities. There's love, friendship, compassion, peace, security in all sorts of ways, as well as spiritual gifts.


Laurin: Yes. And I would add purpose to that I just, that's what I, I love when I'm in my purpose, that's when I'm happiest. So, I like, I want an abundance of purpose, you know. But I love that it's really anything. And I was actually just a guest on the Abundance Journey Podcast. And it was interesting cuz she wanted me to define my term of abundance and I was like, I don't know how to do that because I don't wanna go straight to money.


That's, that's sort of, I think everybody's first thought, but, and she said, you know, sometimes it's a feeling. And I said, that's exactly what it [00:06:00] is. For me, abundance is a feeling. It's a feeling of being filled with joy or filled with purpose so just for the listeners and the viewers, abundance can be anything.


And I think we've got a lot of good examples now, so. All right. So, what are the components of this ritual you're gonna do with us today?


Niki: Some of the components we have, I, I love to represent the elements in almost anything that I do because they're the building blocks of everything.


And I found that a lot of my guides. A lot of the guides in general actually represent or work with the elements as well. So, for the element of air, I have incense and for this one, abundance. So, attracting money, it's a really good smell too. And money is a symbol of abundance, regardless if it's financial or anything. For the symbol for air as well, you could do music or an instrument or, or anything, or feather. For fire. I have an electronic candle, cuz let's face it, not everybody can burn real candles. [00:07:00] A real candle.


Laurin: Mm-hmm. I'm, I got mine back there.


Niki: Even fire quarts or any kind of stone that would signify fire. Anything that represents really is all that's needed. For the element of water, I have shells.


Laurin: Mm-hmm.


Niki: And I have ocean jasper. And then for of course, the element of earth. I have crystals. This one is a green goldstone.


Laurin: Ooh, nice.


Niki: This is wonderful for abundance and prosperity. And when you're gathering all the different components, once you've gotten your purpose clear you can create something that signifies or represents what it is you're trying to bring in.


So, I made two different things. I made an abundance bowl. We have dry rice as well as cinnamon because both of those symbolize prosperity and abundance. I have a regular salt in here for protection as well as cleansing and purification. We have sugar to help sweeten up all our opportunities that are coming to us. [00:08:00] Rosemary, so we can actually gain clarity and see the different opportunities that are presented to us.


As well as cayenne pepper and coffee to help speed things along.


Laurin: Light the fire.


Niki: Yes, yes. And then I added some dried rose petals because, well, we all need love.


Laurin: Mm-hmm. Mm-hmm. Yeah. The world needs love in a big way, so Yes. Lovely.


Niki: Now a lot of people, they don't like to write or they don't think linear. Me, I, I think in words a lot of people think and pictures or images.


Laurin: mm-hmm.


Niki: So for those, especially the creative types we have the flower of life. It is sacred geometry, and I colored it with focusing on all the intent.


And I left open space one for divine inspiration and two, for everyone else's hopes, dreams, everything that you're trying to manifest, it will flow into here and then magnify and amplify.


Laurin: Mm, nice. All right, well, I'm gonna turn my video and, and audio [00:09:00] off so that Nikki gets the, the full screen here. And I will see you on the other side of the ritual. I'm going to enjoy it and I encourage everybody to just really relax into this and allow the energy to flow through you and bring the abundance into your life this year. All right. I'll see you in a little while.


Niki: Okay. Now to get started, I would like you to take a deep breath and I am channeling energy. So please accept, I will help you ground really quick so we can release absolutely all blockages to this abundance and these opportunities coming our way. So, take a nice big, deep breath and imagine energetic roots growing from your feet, going all the way through the earth into the core of Mother Earth.


And inside this core is crystals of all kinds, energy of all colors, and is gorgeous and calming. [00:10:00] Anchor your roots around any of the crystals, any of the colors that you like. Take a nice, big, deep breath, and we release absolutely all irritations, stress, energies, and emotions that are not in our highest good and any resistances or blockages to absolutely every opportunity of abundance coming our way.


And we flow them out of our very being all the way down the roots and into the core of Mother Earth. And these crystals light up and transmute everything. And positive and light energies.

We ask all of our guides, our higher self, universe to be with us and help us bring forth all of the abundance to ring in the new year. We thank you and we appreciate you now. [00:11:00] Because we are ringing in the new year, I'm gonna do the bell. I'm going to light the candle and the incense so we can get this started. Now the incense is now flowing.


What I would like you to do, imagine, visualize every single hope, every single dream for the future for now. Everything that you need. Everything that you want. Dream big. Get rid of barriers. Get rid of the what ifs. Get rid of the, oh, I wish. And visualize you having all of that right now. The peace, the confidence, the security, whether it be financial or anything else.


The carefree, the joy, the purpose, the happiness, [00:12:00] all of the wonderful energies and emotions that you associate with abundance. And I ask that you invite your guides in, invite your soul, be like, okay. What serves my highest good right here, right now? And I ask that every single person who can channel energy consciously or unconsciously to add in the energies into this video, into this recording, and help amplify for absolutely everyone watching and listening so everyone can receive all of these abundant energies cuz that is the joy of community.


We can all work together to affect change and that is part of a ritual. If you are open and receptive, please state yes. I am channeling the energies of the 11-11 portal [00:13:00] as well as abundance, joy, passion, compassion, love, and absolutely everything in all of our highest good.


And I want you to keep the ideas, keep the feelings flowing and say, yes, I accept these. I am worthy of all of my dreams and hopes coming true right here, right now. And I claim them all.


And just let the energy flow into you and activate at every single level. And while the candle is burning and the incense is going, I would like you to focus on the sacred of geometry. Of that is the flower of life. With the intricate and connecting circles, everything that we are doing, all of our hopes, our will and our intent [00:14:00] make small ripples in the universe within our lives.


And they can affect big change. And that's what we are doing here for the new year. We are bringing in the most positive and abundant change in all of our lives for all of our highest good. So, focus your hopes and dreams into the sacred geometry. Fill in the empty space with your ideas, your hopes, and your dreams. And I'm going to read the incantation.


Flower of life, circles repeating, manifestation now increasing, creativity flowing fast with power of the universe, vast. The whole within a grain of sand manifestation forms from this hand. With unconditional love so wise, uniting power of earth and skies. Flower of life [00:15:00] circles increasing, the energy grows through this speaking.


Now I want you to claim, yes, this is mine. This is ours. I am worthy. I want you to say that, and I want you to say, yes, I am worthy. Yes. Take a nice big deep breath.


Now, accept, claim, be, go forth and live your dreams. We thank our guides. We thank the universe. We thank our higher selves for being here with us and for helping make all of this happen. We are grateful for you. We are going to have a very wonderful [00:16:00] 2023.


Laurin: Oh my, my, my my. That was amazing. Oh, I'm so glad it's recorded because I can see going back and using that again and again and again in the coming months. Oh, that was lovely. Thank you so much. Powerful.


Niki: And the beauty about videos like these, especially with us channeling energy into it, is you can use it as often as you need.


Laurin: Right, right. Yeah. That's I, yeah. Oh, this is powerful. Lovely. Okay. Whew. I just so much energy.

Niki: I that I got chills all over.


Laurin: Yeah. Yeah. Wow, wow. I love that. It was so simple once you explained it all. And so powerful. Now, the incantation, I assume that you created that.


Niki: Actually, I got that from a book, an Oracle deck that I have called the Isis Oracle.


Laurin: Oh sweet. Okay.


Niki: And it is absolutely wonderful. [00:17:00] It's one of my first Oracle Decks.


Laurin: Ah Isis Oracle. I'm making notes.


Niki: It helps us embody the divine feminine and unconditional love.


Laurin: Mm. All right. Darn it. Now I gotta go buy another deck. I have so many decks, but it's like, I gotta have that one too. Okay. I'm giddy. I'm just giddy with the, with the energy. It's like nice and high and light and cool. For, which for me is a high vibration energy.


Mm-hmm. Yeah. So, and this will get added to and added to as people listen to it and, enjoy that ritual. See, I can't even get my words out anymore. This is me in my super happy place. I just take another minute and ground again. Yeah. And I would invite anyone else who's listening or watching this to just make sure that you're grounded.


Cuz when I know, for me, when I experience things like this and Niki is so talented and powerful at doing these, these kinds of things that I get, my vibration rises [00:18:00] really fast now. I, I have been training my vibration to rise for a long time now, but I kind of want to go play in the ether instead of being in the body.


And so, I have to remember to come back into the body and to be really grounded. And it, and she. In case you're not aware of what grounded means, cuz I know it's a word we all of us in this business or this area, throw around a lot. She gave us a wonderful visualization for it, which is very similar to the visualization I teach every one of my clients.


And that I, I use myself. Those trus are great and I would add, you can call in the noms, ask the noms to come help you ground. I love to do that.


Niki: Mm-hmm. And you can even use crystals or a tree branch or a rock, anything.


Laurin: Yeah, yeah. Yeah. And even when, sometimes when I've been in my darker places, just going outside helps. Because you get more in touch with Mother Earth than sitting inside like we are now.


Niki: Mm-hmm.


Laurin: And even like touching a tree for me was one of the, the major ways that I would ground when I was [00:19:00] really intensely emotional, I would say. So yeah, that was, I'm just, I'm still, I'm still high. All right. So, we have participated in the ritual. We have re-grounded again.


Niki: Yes.


Laurin: So, what's the next step for people?


Niki: Self-care. Drink water. Eat some food. Sometimes a lot of energy work can actually be draining. And that's not a bad thing. It really isn't. But taking care of ourself staying hydrated and eating and grounding and resting, if you feel called to do so, are excellent ideas.


Especially because when doing a lot of energy work, it can be, well, it can be a challenge, especially if you're not used to having a whole bunch of energy flowing through you. Right.


Laurin: And when it gets really high, even if you are used to it, it can, I know I often get hungry after I've done a lot of energy work.


The other, the other piece of that that I would add for self-care is if you are a bathtub person, I'm not. But if you are, Epsom salts and a hot bath is a great way to help [00:20:00] the energies settle again in your body. So…


Niki: Yes. And even a foot soak.


Laurin: Yeah. Yeah. I guess so. Okay. I could probably do that. I've been on the stand under a hot shower for quite a while.


Niki: That works wonders too. Yeah. Especially when you're trying to release stuff.


Laurin: Right, right, right.


Niki: And that's another example of a small ritual.


Laurin: Yes. Yeah. Yeah, it's, I call, I call the shower my happy place. It's one of my happy places. I have a lot of happy places these days, thank goodness. But it's also where I, when I was writing books, I would go, when I get stuck, I'd go to take shower and I'd always figure it out, the shower, whatever it was. Cuz it just kind of relaxes everything. So…


Niki: Water is a very creative element.


Laurin: Yes. Yes. Getting in the flow is something that is really lovely. Another question I have for you is now you have the ritual all set up, the incense is burning. I can see the smoke going by, how do you complete that? So, you know, at what point do you snuff the candle or [00:21:00] put your stuff away or?


Niki: Well, I'm gonna let the candle and the incense go as long as they need to. Until they completely burn out. And I can discard the remnants of the wax. But like the little abundance bulb you can actually keep in your whether it be on an altar or any place out in the open and keep well adding your intentions for abundance to it and keep receiving the energies that are within.


Because anything that we put our focus into, whether it be an abundance bowl, a spell jar, or even something cool like this.


Laurin: mm-hmm.


Niki: We can keep revisiting and benefiting from the energy and the intent that we put in there.


Laurin: Oh, lovely. Okay. All right.


Niki: Now if you do a different kind of ritual that requires you disposing of the elements, you can either do that by burying, throwing away, or even putting in a river if you want to help something flow away from you.


Laurin: Mm-hmm. Nice.


Niki: As long as it's eco-friendly.


Laurin: Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. I know that one of the rituals I've used in the past is writing down things on paper and then burning them. [00:22:00]


Niki: That is a wonderful way to release.


Laurin: Get out of my body. So that's another, another thing. Okay. That's good. Yay. All right. I'm just still in the joy here.


Niki: Awesome.


Laurin: Yeah, I'm so glad that we, we brainstormed this, So do your guides have any messages they would like to share with our listeners today?


Niki: Don't sit back and just do the ritual. Go out and live as if you already have your dreams. Keep taking those steps because you will achieve it. You will accept those opportunities and they will flow to you and you will be abundant.


Laurin: I love, I love how easily you can bring that kind of thing through. It's just beautiful. Okay. And it does remind me that one of the things that I have learned recently about manifesting, which is basically what we're, we're working on here, so you do have to take action.


Niki: Mm-hmm.


Laurin: You don't just send it out and wait for it to come. You need to take a step towards it. And that begins to pull things. It, it strengthens the connection to whatever it is you're trying to manifest. [00:23:00] So don't just do the ritual and let it sit there. Whatever those dreams are, that we've brought into that mandala or your, your bowl.


What's something you can do today? Or tomorrow if you need to take a break today to move you a step towards whatever that is. Doesn't have to be big. It just needs to be an intention of moving towards your dreams. And that's something that I've really, surprisingly only just understood. It's like, okay, I put it out there. It's not coming.


Niki: It can be something as simple as even repeating an affirmation every now and then. Like, I am worthy or I am deserving, or I am loved, I am supported. You know, little things.


Laurin: I particularly like the I am worthy. Cuz I think that's when a lot of us I wanna say particularly women, we sort of feel like we should put everybody else first and we're not worthy of putting ourselves first.


Niki: Mm-hmm.


Laurin: But we totally are. We, we need to step into the confidence that [00:24:00] worthiness brings. Yes, because our energy. The feminine energy is so needed to balance the world right now. Yeah, and so I just really want to wish everybody listening, male or female, we all have divine feminine energy within us and we need to really activate that.


We need to bring it forth and so, let's bring that one into the world. Let's activate that by taking steps. And this ritual is a great way stepping towards your abundance, stepping into your worthiness, owning it. Even if you don't, if that little voice goes, oh, no, no, no, you go, nope, I'm worthy.

Just repeat it, repeat it, repeat it. Louise Hay talks about mirror work.


Niki: Mm-hmm.


Laurin: Where you stand in front of a mirror, you look into your own eyes and you repeat affirmations like I am worthy. So, I would just encourage you to create a little ritual around that in 2027.


Niki: That can be very uncomfortable. Pushed through it because it works.


Laurin: Yeah. It's powerful. And that discomfort is something [00:25:00] that you yeah. You just have to just stay with it. Allow it to be uncomfortable.


Niki: Mm-hmm.


Laurin: And just keep doing it until you look in your eyes and go, I am worthy. And you go, damn right. I am. You know?


Niki: Another one that for me is I love myself.


Laurin: Yes. Oh, and that's a really hard one for a lot of us.


Niki: Yeah, it is. It is. It took me a lot of years to get to this point.


Laurin: Yeah, yeah, yeah. But boy, when you embraced that, you really embraced it, and I'm so proud of you for that. How can our listeners interact with you? Let's put it that way.


Niki: Well, I'm on a whole bunch of socials. I do have a website. It is www.techwitchlair.com. Tech Witch Lair on Facebook and Tech Witch, Niki on YouTube, Instagram and TikTok .


Laurin: Okay. And we'll have links of course to all of that in the, in the show notes. So, is there any, do you have a newsletter, something that people can sign up for?


Niki: I do. It goes out every couple of weeks. And, the subscription is on my website. [00:26:00]


Laurin: Okay. And also, let's just go ahead and keep plugging you for a minute. What services do you offer? I'm gonna make you talk about it, see.


Niki: I have two single sessions that are, one is just straight spiritual connection communication, where I connect you with your guides via either tarot, Oracle ruins, intuitive guided messages.

And you, it's unlimited for unlimited questions and messages for, you know, 75 minutes. I have one that is designed, I call it the cycle breaker with energy healing and it's essentially a cord cutting where we, we cut away every single attachment, every single negative, harmful attachment that anybody would have, whether it be to old patterns of thought, old patterns of survival that no longer serve our good.


Laurin: Mm-hmm.


Niki: Or even entities. That can plague us and be like, hey, you don't deserve this. Owning. I sure do. Yeah. And we cut them all away. And send healing to both sides.


Laurin: Mm-hmm.


Niki: Because I am a guide for the [00:27:00] dead. And many of them are passed on who tried to, feed on fear and negativity. I help them go where they need to go, so they're not gonna be a bothered to anyone else ever again.


And, and then we heal the whole of the client and that way they can actually move forward and break their chains and actually start believe that they are worthy. Yeah. Cuz I had to do that for me, before I learned how to channel energy and everything, I had to do a, a, a very elaborate ritual.


Laurin: Mm-hmm. Mm-hmm. Okay. Yeah, that sounds very powerful. I know that I do, some work with cord cutting, but that's, taking it to a whole other level than what I do. That's lovely. All right. So, if you are interested in working with Niki in any way, get on her newsletter, go check out her website, connect with her on, on the socials.


She's a fabulous person. I have to say. I love spending time with Niki and I don't get to do it very often, but we live close enough, but not close enough to get together [00:28:00] regularly. So, I really would encourage you to, to follow up with her cuz she's fabulous and she is unique in the way that she works with her clients.


I, I don't know anybody else who works with them quite the same way she does. Thank you for joining us here on New Year's Day or later, if that's when you're listening to this. The same ritual works at all times. It's always the now, so it's, available to you always forever.


As long as the internet is out there. So, and I definitely am gonna come back to it and use the ritual, experience your ritual again. Because I, I did, I found it very powerful and I probably will do it, do the pieces of it with you when I do it. Cuz I'm already, I already know.


Today I'm gonna go make a bowl, abundance bowl. All right. I wanna thank everybody for joining us today. I hope you have gained as much joy as I have from this experience, and I would like to encourage you to come back here to, Curiously Wise, we have a new episode every week. Sometimes it's experiences, sometimes it's just straight interviews and [00:29:00] sometimes,

you just get me and I hope that you have a wonderful abundant 2023 and I will see you next time. Niki, thanks for being here. That’s it for us. Shine on.



Thank you so much for joining us today on Curiously Wise. If you enjoyed this episode, please be sure to subscribe, so you don't miss future fabulous conversations. And if you had any ahas, please share them in a review on Apple Podcasts so we can continue to pay forward the unique wisdom we all have.


If you want to know more about me or my intuitive energy healing practice Heartlight wellness, please head over to my website. www.heartlightjoy.com.


Curiously Wise is a team effort. I am grateful for the skill and enthusiasm. Arlene Membrot, our producer, and Sam Wittig, our audio engineer, bring to this collaboration. Our [00:30:00] music is Where the Light Is by Lemon Music Studio.


I'm Laurin Wittig. Please join me again next week for another episode of Curiously Wise. From my heart to yours, may your life be filled with love, light, joy, and of course, curiosity.


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